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Anki and Skritter

leebee   July 4th, 2013 7:10p.m.

I've seen a lot of conversation about one or the other but never on both. I was curious if anybody uses BOTH anki and skritter. And if so, why.

Sorry if this sounds like a silly question!

ricksh   July 4th, 2013 9:33p.m.

Yes - Skritter for words, Anki for sentences and dialogues. Anki doesn't do words well (too much input time, allows duplicates across decks), Skritter doesn't do sentences/dialogues well.

lechuan   July 4th, 2013 9:36p.m.

I use Skritter for learning Chinese characters.
I use Pleco for pinyin vocab. Eventually I'll move this vocab to Skritter once I reach my goal of 3000 individual characters.
I use Anki for non-Chinese stuff.

mcfarljw   July 5th, 2013 6:51a.m.

Same as ricksh.

leebee   July 5th, 2013 12:37p.m.

Ooo that makes sense. Thanks guys! I'll try it out.

snowcreature99   July 5th, 2013 10:06p.m.

Same as ricksh and josh, I use both.

Anki for drilling sentences Antimoon.com-style. Goal is to get to 10k native sentences.

Skritter for writing and practicing individual words.

Arkan La Sida   July 6th, 2013 6:27a.m.

Anki for classical much older characters.

learninglife   July 6th, 2013 2:53p.m.

Can anybody please tell me why this Anki is so good? I am using quizlet and am totally happy with it. Quizlet is free and it lets you create flashcards with sentences as well.

fdsf   July 7th, 2013 9:07a.m.

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leebee   July 7th, 2013 9:48a.m.

I just downloaded a sentence deck on Anki. You guys are right. Anki really is better for sentences :) I also didn't realize that my brain gets stumped on these even though I know them *derp*.

@learning life j.h.: Anki is also free. I haven't used quizlet so I cant compare the two. I'll download it later to see the differences.

learninglife   July 7th, 2013 2:31p.m.

@leebee I havent found any free Anki app in the store. What is the name of the free Anki app?

leebee   July 7th, 2013 8:09p.m.

@learninglife j.h. Which platform do you use? It seems for iphones you need to pay but the app is free for android users and desktops.

learninglife   July 8th, 2013 2:51a.m.

@ leebee correct, I am using the apple stores.

have you tried quizlet yet? I still like quizlet a lot. its easy to use, does the job and is free. thats why I am curious why people would ue Anki which is not free for the apple community...

Evan   July 8th, 2013 3:40a.m.

This thread would be a great place for any of y'all to throw any elegant ideas you may have to improve our sentence-study functionality out there!

ricksh   July 8th, 2013 3:52a.m.

I run Anki on computer only - dialogues plus audio (not text to speech, which I don't like). Given flashcards are 100s characters long, and the Anki collection runs into GBs, mobile clients aren't responsive to my use. I just have characters, no pinyin or translation, as that is what takes the time to sort out in anki. The idea is to put sentences / dialogues through SRS too, whereas Skritter does characters/words.

What do you get from quizlet that skritter doesn't give?

learninglife   July 8th, 2013 11:13a.m.

just went to anki.com but couldnt find any application that would allow me to study on my computer.

i can not compare anki with qizlet since i only know the latter.

leebee   July 8th, 2013 11:17a.m.

@learninglife j.h. Thats the wrong anki link. lol. Its here : http://ankisrs.net/

Yes I just tried quizlet here are my thoughts:

Things I liked:
1- I liked the little testing sections. Its a cute addition that Anki does not have. They seperate different sections, one for learning the cards, another for testing hearing, and another for testing writing and an overall test.


Things I dont like:
1- The app. I really really hate it. I downloaded it and it comes with ads that download to your phone and you get updates on ads. Yeah. Not fun. I uninstalled almost immediately and tried the desktop version instead.
2- Pinyin and definition is always there. Some of the tests would benefit more without them. For instance, on the speller section a speaker reads the word and youre supposed to type it but they place the pinyin and definition right beside it. I noticed this in the flashcards too. The pinyin is always hovered ontop.
3- I dont think this is SRS. Most sections dont have more than a few cards. With Anki you can download a deck with a bunch of cards and it spaces them out based on how many new cards you add perday and how well you fared in the reviews.
4- online based...

learninglife   July 8th, 2013 12:39p.m.

@leebee my Quizlet app for iphone is free and there are no ads in it.

fungsousa   July 8th, 2013 5:54p.m.

I use Skritter to learn new words. I listen to ChinesePod lessons and take the example sentences. These go to an excel. I also download the audio for the example sentences using a Firefox plugin (cacheviewer fx6). When I know all the words in a sentence I put the sentence on Anki. Having audio on Anki for me is a great thing: Anki gives me the Chinese Sentence and I can think of the sentence tones and the English meaning. Having the sentence audio sounds a lot better than using separate files for each character.

Though the Anki app is the most expensive app I ever bought, it is still cheaper than a year subscription on ChinesePod. However I do have an hope that ChinesePod (or maybe skritter) will eventually create a section for flashcards of sentences on their apps. But because skritter for iphone took such long time to develop and the ChinesePod app has such small characters, the decision to buy Anki for iPhone was a no brainer.

snowcreature99   July 9th, 2013 1:05a.m.

One thing I'm really liking about Anki is the ability to do cloze deletions.

Am finding it's one thing to be able to think I know a sentence just fine because I can read and understand it - but is often a completely different matter for my brain to have to fill in a missing character on the fly from context.

This is especially true in shining a spotlight on my deficiencies in choosing various connector words - the 就、而、了、過、啊、呀、其's of the world...

learninglife   July 9th, 2013 9:17a.m.

@leebee thanks! just downloaded the program.

Thomas (from Nuli!努力!)   July 24th, 2013 3:49a.m.

- I used to use Skritter for words
- Anki for sentences (the 20k sentences deck)
- Pleco for offline dictionary look-up and fast card creation (the small "+")

My problem was, how do I synchronise things I know in an app into an other? Time consuming.

Also, Anki was testing sentences but not words individually in it.

That's one of the reasons why we created http://nulinu.li For @leebee, it's free, no ads, no pinyin in reading exercices :)

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